Requests for new pages or further information

Requests for new pages or further information

Postby Devotional Sex » Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:35 pm

Please post here any requests for further information or new pages you would like me to add soon to Version 2 of this website.

I will be transferring pages from the old website to the new, but this isn't trivial as I each page needs to be reformatted and I need to ensure that what is on the page is consistent with the changes I've made in terms and how I explain Devotional Sex.

Whilst it is useful for me to know which big areas readers would like covered, the updates which are most likely to be done quickly are things that I can do with only a few hours (or at most days) work.

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Re: Requests for new pages or further information

Postby RevSir » Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:36 pm

I would go with putting more detail to what it means to be a knight or a princess and / or the basics of what Devotional Sex is
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Re: Requests for new pages or further information

Postby RevSir » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:03 pm

Like the one page summary, gives a very good overview. Together with the glossaries it probably provides sufficient information to begin exploring devotional sex.

One thing I would question iis under the commitment of being a princess

...that he always wants to remain her knight.

Is it right to include the word 'always'. If they are not living devotional sex then he won't always be her knight, only during the current spell. If they are living devotional sex then the advice is to review the agreement annually so he only remains her knight until the end of the year before recommitting.

(There's an extra space before 'always want to...')
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Re: Requests for new pages or further information

Postby Devotional Sex » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:47 pm

Thanks. You make some good points about the word 'always'.

I'll think about it a bit more, but my first attempt at an improvement is:

Ensure that HE enjoys being her Knight as much as she enjoys being his Princess,

This also captures the EQUALITY IN HAPPINESS aspect ie it's not just all about her enjoying it nor just about him enjoying it - the aim is for both to be about equally happy.

PS - This is the time to get things right. To modify the new definition I now only need to change a line in two pages. So it is an easy change to make. But later on changes may require many pages to be edited which eventually makes it a huge amount of work to change a term, etc.

PPS - I've made this change (but the page might need to be REFRESHED in your browser to see this update).
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Re: Requests for new pages or further information

Postby mrrigid » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:21 pm

To me, the word "dominance" jumps out - even when you mean Devotional Sex is the opposite.
To be his Princess, without acting or feeling dominant, she commits to:

perhaps "without having to feel or act dominant" - the Princess can feel however she wants.
Devotional Sex increases male passion and desire whilst also removing male dominance.

(I wasn't unpleasantly 'dominant' before!) Perhaps something like "Devotional Sex channels the male's abundant passion and desire into connection with and respect for his Princes"
fulfilling every sensual and sexual wish of his partner (within what he is willing to do), and

Actually that feels femdommy - perhaps - "cares for his Princess in every possible way"
decide, with his input, when and how he will ejaculate and this doesn't happen most Sessions.

there's a lot in that line - perhaps "respects his wish to limit his ejaculations; but selectively chooses, with his input, when they occur"

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Re: Requests for new pages or further information

Postby Devotional Sex » Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:38 pm

Thanks for the thoughtful comments. I'll look at them again tomorrow (it's after 11pm here), but my first thoughts are:

On "without acting or feeling dominant" I want to make clear that DevS isn't Femdom. One of the three freedoms is adding bits of other techniques, and I mention here that if she does have some natural dominance that can be added. I see pure DevS at the zero dominance side with FemDom having dom/sub as key. So, for now, I want to leave it as it is.

I get what you are saying about not being dominant before. I think the issue is that it conventional sex has lots of shared expectations - so, for example, her generating or positively acting towards his arousal has an expectation that having encouraged him she should 'finish the job'. Another for most couples is that having sex means having intercourse. For most this is just normal sex, and thus the male doesn't need to act at all dominant for these 'normal' things to happen. That's what I'm getting at. So maybe I'll think of a better way of saying this than using the word 'dominance'.

The idea of the Wish Words is that he does do as she wishes - her wish is his command. The challenge for a Knight isn't doing the activities she requests (he is always eager) but stopping activities and having times when nothing or not much happens. I see FemDom as mainly a Dominant/submissive dynamic. DevS doesn't have this. Rather she drives the car because he has said "you can drive".

DevS is initiated by women as well as men (and this happened with about 29% of those who live DevS). So the push for him not to ejaculate as often as usual can come from her, which means that it isn't her respecting his wish, but him giving it a go and finding that he benefits from this as well.

Bed time for me now. I'll think more on all of this, and in the meantime any further comments - from anyone - are welcome.
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Re: Requests for new pages or further information

Postby mrrigid » Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:49 pm

Oh, and in the ' It's different from other techniques' section- consider including Chastity directly, and use your line "Devotional Sex is a celebration of the erection" - that's a great line!
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Re: Requests for new pages or further information

Postby Devotional Sex » Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:59 pm

On the one page summary what I included was only meant as a pointer to a much larger section which will include not only chastity but tease and denial and porn-style CFNM.

My question for the one page summary is whether or not chastity is well enough known to mention it there. At the moment I think not, but I could be convinced otherwise.

And I also love the line "DevS is a celebration of the erection". I think there is a forum post somewhere where I suggest that DevS leads to the man being erect more often and for longer than any other technique.
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Re: Requests for new pages or further information

Postby RevSir » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:34 pm

To be his princess she commits to-

I agree with mrrigid in that by including without acting or feeling dominant it raises the whole idea of dominance. The phrase don't turn around makes most people want to turn around.

I agree totally with not wanting it to be seen as femdom, I wonder whether illustrating the differences and similarities with other techniques would be best on a page of comparisons. eg Devotional Sex is like Tantra becasue... but it is different to Tantra because... If that page is included then I would take out the 'without acting or feeling dominant' which also balances the role of knight and princess.

I like the idea of channeling the male's passion rather than removing dominance. I also see the point of differentiating devtional sex from the normal expectations of sex equals intercourse and ejaculation. Something along the lines of channels male passion into more sensual and sexual activites and greater intimacy. (Typing off the top of my head.)

Does changing 'fulfilling every sensual and sexual wish of his partner (within what he is willing to do), and' to 'within his limits, he fulfills the sensual and sexual wishes of his partner, and'. I feel the word 'every' takes away his choice, his options which might lead to the feeling of femdom. The caviat of within his limits doesn't do the job.
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Re: Requests for new pages or further information

Postby Devotional Sex » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:34 am

I'm thinking about all of the above, but as I'm out for all of today I won't be publishing any changes until tomorrow.

On using the word 'limits' - I don't think most people are aware of this BDSM term - hence my using the easy to understand (within what he is willing to do).

I might add a sentence below the definition along the lines of "As he is honor-bound to keep his commitments, she doesn't need to act nor feel dominant when she has him fulfill her wishes".
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